My first time in a Cayenne EV today, and comparison to Taycan/Macan

[Luminated67]

Son has so far covered about 270 miles and 98% SOC was showing 303 miles, he says it’s been all motorway driving at 73mph on the adaptive cruise. Temperature 17-18 degree so decent but not optimum.

He has already said “Dad can I keep it” must be liking it.

 

[Matt-Taycan]

Son has so far covered about 270 miles and 98% SOC was showing 303 miles, he says it’s been all motorway driving at 73mph on the adaptive cruise. Temperature 17-18 degree so decent but not optimum.

He has already said “Dad can I keep it” must be liking it.

all Motorway but not all at 73mph

 

[Throb]

Son has so far covered about 270 miles and 98% SOC was showing 303 miles, he says it’s been all motorway driving at 73mph on the adaptive cruise. Temperature 17-18 degree so decent but not optimum.

He has already said “Dad can I keep it” must be liking it.

Has he confirmed Launch Control functions correctly, yet?

 

[Luminated67]

Has he confirmed Launch Control functions correctly, yet?

If there’s one person in the family that would try it would be him.

BTW he just sent me a photo of his average consumption and it’s 2.98miles/KW. Not too bad if you ask me.

 

[cometguy]

third follow-up to the OP:
I test-drove another Cayenne "4" at Porsche Boston/Natick this week. I confirmed that it's like the Macan 4 in being lethargic in accleration, in strange contrast to my Taycan 4. I know that the Cayenne 4 rear motor(s) are identical to those in the Macan 4 (and the Cayenne 4S/Turbo are upgraded motors), but I continue to be amazed at how much better the Taycan 4 motors are than the Cayenne/Macan 4 motors...

I confirmed that the rear seats cannot be put down manually (with the exception of the middle "ski-hatch" portion, which can), and you have to use the rear-cargo-compartment buttons to electronically put the rear seats both down and up. That's a huge flaw as I see it, if the electronic motors fail to work. It's like the problematical electronic charge-port doors, which sometimes work and sometimes do not work -- across all Porsche BEVs (from personal experience and from the online forums). In looking at numerous Cayenne BEVs over the last several weeks, I've found the charge-port doors to be slow to open when they do open, and often finicky to get to work at all. Bad decisions by Porsche to not have back seats and charge-port doors open/move manually. The sales rep did show me how I can open both charge-port doors from the central infotainment screen, which is probably how I'd prefer to do it on road trips to avoid the pain of exterior tapping on the door not working all the time. On Taycans that have electronic-only charge-port doors, sliding the finger under the port-door "lip" works much better (usually) than the "push the square" process on the Cayenne BEV. Porsche, please just give me the option to get manual-operating charge-port doors!

Again, the interior door handles continue to amaze me as to how very bad they are. They feel cheap and will pinch many fingers, and I think that they are likely to break in large numbers. Why Porsche can't make decent interior door handles is mind-boggling.

I fiddled some more with the infotainment screen's navigation, asking it to plan a trip (with charging) to Los Angeles from Boston; it took a very very long time with the ball spinning and spinning... a couple minutes just to display the route, and then another 5-6 minutes after that to show all the charging stops. I'd heard that the Porsche navigation system was much-improved in terms of speed, but this doesn't confirm those reports. It is, however, much better software in terms of practical flexibility, whereby you can choose SoC at each stop on long road trips and can more easily see what stops have been chosen along the way. You're allowed to choose charging speeds at DCFC stations as well as DCFC brands; without choosing brands, it gave me mostly Tesla Supercharger stations from coast to coast, but when I went in and eliminated Tesla from my chosen providers, it made zero difference. Lots of bugs appear to be in the system still; hope they get ironed out in the first year of sale, as I'll be waiting til MY2028 to order mine.

 

[Moheisen(FirstEV)]

third follow-up to the OP:
I test-drove another Cayenne "4" at Porsche Boston/Natick this week. I confirmed that it's like the Macan 4 in being lethargic in accleration, in strange contrast to my Taycan 4. I know that the Cayenne 4 rear motor(s) are identical to those in the Macan 4 (and the Cayenne 4S/Turbo are upgraded motors), but I continue to be amazed at how much better the Taycan 4 motors are than the Cayenne/Macan 4 motors...

I confirmed that the rear seats cannot be put down manually (with the exception of the middle "ski-hatch" portion, which can), and you have to use the rear-cargo-compartment buttons to electronically put the rear seats both down and up. That's a huge flaw as I see it, if the electronic motors fail to work. It's like the problematical electronic charge-port doors, which sometimes work and sometimes do not work -- across all Porsche BEVs (from personal experience and from the online forums). In looking at numerous Cayenne BEVs over the last several weeks, I've found the charge-port doors to be slow to open when they do open, and often finicky to get to work at all. Bad decisions by Porsche to not have back seats and charge-port doors open/move manually. The sales rep did show me how I can open both charge-port doors from the central infotainment screen, which is probably how I'd prefer to do it on road trips to avoid the pain of exterior tapping on the door not working all the time. On Taycans that have electronic-only charge-port doors, sliding the finger under the port-door "lip" works much better (usually) than the "push the square" process on the Cayenne BEV. Porsche, please just give me the option to get manual-operating charge-port doors!

Again, the interior door handles continue to amaze me as to how very bad they are. They feel cheap and will pinch many fingers, and I think that they are likely to break in large numbers. Why Porsche can't make decent interior door handles is mind-boggling.

I fiddled some more with the infotainment screen's navigation, asking it to plan a trip (with charging) to Los Angeles from Boston; it took a very very long time with the ball spinning and spinning... a couple minutes just to display the route, and then another 5-6 minutes after that to show all the charging stops. I'd heard that the Porsche navigation system was much-improved in terms of speed, but this doesn't confirm those reports. It is, however, much better software in terms of practical flexibility, whereby you can choose SoC at each stop on long road trips and can more easily see what stops have been chosen along the way. You're allowed to choose charging speeds at DCFC stations as well as DCFC brands; without choosing brands, it gave me mostly Tesla Supercharger stations from coast to coast, but when I went in and eliminated Tesla from my chosen providers, it made zero difference. Lots of bugs appear to be in the system still; hope they get ironed out in the first year of sale, as I'll be waiting til MY2028 to order mine.

I do understand your concerns, but as you can see on the forum, there are quite a few of us who took delivery at launch, and I haven't heard of any major bugs from any of us. So I'm not quite sure what you are referring to there.

Regarding the software, when I select a route, it usually calculates and starts navigating within 5 seconds. It could therefore be that the car you tested didn't have a proper connection, or that there was something else causing the delay.

In my experience, the charging ports have worked flawlessly through all the different weather conditions we've had here in the Nordics. They’ve opened and closed smoothly every time, and I haven’t experienced any issues with them so far.

I'd probably put more weight on the experiences of owners who use the cars on a daily basis, rather than drawing conclusions from a few demo cars, which may well still be close to beta-test vehicles.

 

[CHP]

third follow-up to the OP:
I test-drove another Cayenne "4" at Porsche Boston/Natick this week. I confirmed that it's like the Macan 4 in being lethargic in accleration, in strange contrast to my Taycan 4. I know that the Cayenne 4 rear motor(s) are identical to those in the Macan 4 (and the Cayenne 4S/Turbo are upgraded motors), but I continue to be amazed at how much better the Taycan 4 motors are than the Cayenne/Macan 4 motors...

I confirmed that the rear seats cannot be put down manually (with the exception of the middle "ski-hatch" portion, which can), and you have to use the rear-cargo-compartment buttons to electronically put the rear seats both down and up. That's a huge flaw as I see it, if the electronic motors fail to work. It's like the problematical electronic charge-port doors, which sometimes work and sometimes do not work -- across all Porsche BEVs (from personal experience and from the online forums). In looking at numerous Cayenne BEVs over the last several weeks, I've found the charge-port doors to be slow to open when they do open, and often finicky to get to work at all. Bad decisions by Porsche to not have back seats and charge-port doors open/move manually. The sales rep did show me how I can open both charge-port doors from the central infotainment screen, which is probably how I'd prefer to do it on road trips to avoid the pain of exterior tapping on the door not working all the time. On Taycans that have electronic-only charge-port doors, sliding the finger under the port-door "lip" works much better (usually) than the "push the square" process on the Cayenne BEV. Porsche, please just give me the option to get manual-operating charge-port doors!

Again, the interior door handles continue to amaze me as to how very bad they are. They feel cheap and will pinch many fingers, and I think that they are likely to break in large numbers. Why Porsche can't make decent interior door handles is mind-boggling.

I fiddled some more with the infotainment screen's navigation, asking it to plan a trip (with charging) to Los Angeles from Boston; it took a very very long time with the ball spinning and spinning... a couple minutes just to display the route, and then another 5-6 minutes after that to show all the charging stops. I'd heard that the Porsche navigation system was much-improved in terms of speed, but this doesn't confirm those reports. It is, however, much better software in terms of practical flexibility, whereby you can choose SoC at each stop on long road trips and can more easily see what stops have been chosen along the way. You're allowed to choose charging speeds at DCFC stations as well as DCFC brands; without choosing brands, it gave me mostly Tesla Supercharger stations from coast to coast, but when I went in and eliminated Tesla from my chosen providers, it made zero difference. Lots of bugs appear to be in the system still; hope they get ironed out in the first year of sale, as I'll be waiting til MY2028 to order mine.

Like @Moheisen(FirstEV), I also do not share all your concerns. I had electric rear seats like in Cayenne EV previously without any fault in 5 years. Charging ports are fast enough to me (it's no Star Wars blaster door fast though) and work reliable unlike Taycan and Macan (different design). I prefer those over manual which I had on my 2nd Macan EV. Navigation calculation is super fast (1-5 seconds) and system is very responsive.

I believe the rear motor is the one from Macan 4s but there are a lot of components which influence performance.

 

[cometguy]

I do understand your concerns, but as you can see on the forum, there are quite a few of us who took delivery at launch, and I haven't heard of any major bugs from any of us. So I'm not quite sure what you are referring to there.

Regarding the software, when I select a route, it usually calculates and starts navigating within 5 seconds. It could therefore be that the car you tested didn't have a proper connection, or that there was something else causing the delay.

In my experience, the charging ports have worked flawlessly through all the different weather conditions we've had here in the Nordics. They’ve opened and closed smoothly every time, and I haven’t experienced any issues with them so far.

I'd probably put more weight on the experiences of owners who use the cars on a daily basis, rather than drawing conclusions from a few demo cars, which may well still be close to beta-test vehicles.

Yes, I'm not overly worried about any of this, as one who has endured minor Taycan hiccups for a few years now. The cars I've test-driven are all "Launch"/demo vehicles. Just reporting what I've noticed, that's all.

 

[Luminated67]

The Taycan Mk1 was a terrible car for continued faults, ours have several heater units replace and spent several weeks in the shop with a fault with the battery pack. Great car to drive but everything else fell well short of my past experiences with Porsche.

The Mk2 Taycan or call it the facelift was a significantly better car IMO and gave me much more faith in getting the Cayenne.

 

[mirto]

The navigation is very fast, something must've been wrong with that car. I agree about the handles, the design is just bad IMO. I can't comment about the durability.

I don't own the car, this is from a short demo car experience.

 

[Luminated67]

The navigation is very fast, something must've been wrong with that car. I agree about the handles, the design is just bad IMO. I can't comment about the durability.

I don't own the car, this is from a short demo car experience.

I’ve lived with these handles on both the Taycan and the 911 and in either car they have never broke or failed to work as designed. On the Cayenne it’s a slight pull and the door opens so I see it working equally as well as the others, the only thing I will agree with is compared to some other brands they feel cheap but that’s it IMO.