Lucid Sapphire by Savage Geese

[LongLive959]

The car was screaming for a mid-cycle refresh the day it hit the showroom. Too focused on drag….they need to take a range hit and fix that front end. Or sell it for half the price and let us BYOB….bring your own body

 

[bluesky]

Geordie managed to lose the visor and probably never looked back. Lucid needs to do the same.

 

[SECRET]

The front end just looks too much like a salamander mouth to me.

I nearly bought one, but the software issues and quality gremlins snapped me back to reality. You can surf the Lucid forums and see how people are trying to convince themselves that accepting that stuff is normal.

The one I tried failed to unlock the door so we had a bit of an interesting time getting out of the car. Rear door also didn't close properly. The software revision in the car was buggy so the screen just to the right of the driver didn't respond at one point. Lastly the special slide away display didn't always slide back.

The showroom car has the wow factor of a very different looking interior, but the actual comfort with a functional one wasn't as wonderful as you may dream it to be.

If you have money to throw around and you want to try it, try to rent one. In our area, there's sometimes one available on Turo. The person is charging an extreme premium, and it's almost never rented.

 

[f1eng]

they need to take a range hit and fix that front end.

I realise not many people have aero experience and expectations seem to be about “piercing the air” but actually as long as the edges have big radii the front isn’t that critical.

The difficult bit is to keep the flow attached as far back as possible to keep the wake as small as possible, which means the roof shape and how the glass work fits and tapers towards the back makes a surprisingly big difference to drag.

 

[summerlion]

You can surf the Lucid forums and see how people are trying to convince themselves that accepting that stuff is normal.

Sounds like another EV forum I know of.

 

[SECRET]

Sounds like another EV forum I know of.

Haha touché

 

[Draman]

I'm up in the air on the aesthetics of the car but it looks better than any ev from MB, BMW or Tesla. The front looks like a very futuristic car from a distance but the horizontal light bar across the hood is not as bright as the vertical light bars on either side which looks odd and disjointed to me. The rear also looks slightly bulbous, but I'm sure it was done for aerodynamic reasons.

I actually see quite a few of these on a regular basis at this point, multiple per day. I believe it was a Grand Touring trim that absolutely dusted my Turbo a few days ago.

 

[Mr.Smith]

Jason Cammisa talks in detail why the Sapphire is much better than a Plaid.
Spoiler...Handling

 

[andb]

I've watched the video, but I sort of find them biased and unbiased at the same time. They point out that is a "marvel of engineering" and that is "the MB of the 80s". Come on...
This car has lots of quality issues , and technical issues. MB was king in the 80s exactly for having those points like a tank.
Also, keep repeating that engineering is great. But explain to me, WHAT exactly it is.
Because 95% of the people don't give a damn about track times and how good it takes corners on a track, or how cool the brake disks are after a lap.
And they should look at Porsche. Porsche is not financially successful because of the 911. It's because of the mass production cars (Boxter, Macan, Cayenne).
They need to get a cheap car running ASAP, or else they will go bankrupt next year.
Both of them point out that the screens are awful. Exactly WHAT matters for most drivers.
250k is not worth it. Simple as that.

 

[f1eng]

I've watched the video, but I sort of find them biased and unbiased at the same time. They point out that is a "marvel of engineering" and that is "the MB of the 80s". Come on...
This car has lots of quality issues , and technical issues. MB was king in the 80s exactly for having those points like a tank.
Also, keep repeating that engineering is great. But explain to me, WHAT exactly it is.
Because 95% of the people don't give a damn about track times and how good it takes corners on a track, or how cool the brake disks are after a lap.
And they should look at Porsche. Porsche is not financially successful because of the 911. It's because of the mass production cars (Boxter, Macan, Cayenne).
They need to get a cheap car running ASAP, or else they will go bankrupt next year.
Both of them point out that the screens are awful. Exactly WHAT matters for most drivers.
250k is not worth it. Simple as that.

I agree about MB in the 80s, it was in the 90s when they removed the "invisible" class leading (IMHO) engineering in favour of spending budget on bits the average customer could see and be impressed by that they lost that edge.
It has taken a long time to get the current engineering design ethos reliable (if they have, mine is a pre-cost cutting model so no first hand knowledge)

What they probably need is a SUV, sadly.
What saved Porsche was the Cayenne and the change of product direction that lead to.

I'm not sure the Boxter made much money despite being the best car they made (IMO).

 

[whitex]

I guess thats where we differ - I can't put 'aesthetics aside' when purchasing a 6 figure car - I have to want to get in it when I walk up to it and the Lucid fails big time for me in this respect. As always these things are entirely personal .

People buy cars for different reasons, that is what make the world interesting and allows so many different cars to sell. Some buy it for inexpensive and/or reliable transportation, others for how it looks, others for how it drives/performs, and others to impress neighbors/family/friends/coworkers. Most probably try to strike a balance. Porsche allows great flexibility in that regard, you can scale the esthetics independently from performance or functionality, so everyone can put their money into whichever aspect hey prefer - better looking or better performing car. Of course you can pull out all the budget stops and get it all too.

 

[charliemathilde]

@daveo4EV have you test driven a lucid yet ?

 

[Hanny]

…I think I’ll still to the ‘Taycan - owned by crowing crows’ ?

 

[Caraholic]

Very curious on the sapphire but not at 200+. Guess in a couple years when it’s under a 100 it may be worth checking out