Anyone going back to a Tesla?

[WasserGKuehlt]

I second this motion.

We’re all just trying to help out the (1-post) OP.

 

[pnw-ev-nerd]

I'd like to complain about people who hold things up by complaining about people complaining. It's about time something was done about it!

 

[Perry]

I’m not sure if it counts, but I’m considering getting a Model X as a complementary car for family trips. It doesn’t replace the Taycan as my everyday car, but with a second child, the Taycan is a bit crowded and the Model X is a great EV.

More on topic, as I see it, the Taycan is an amazing car, but Tesla is still far ahead when it comes to EV specific features, which I find especially important for longer trips. The charge planner is significantly better, the charging experience with Superchargers is unmatched, the app is probably best in the industry and few cars can match Tesla in overall range.

A full-specced Model S/X is also like €100,000 cheaper than a equivalent Taycan so I’d argue you get quite some bang for the buck if that’s a concern.

 

[Fish Fingers]

We’re all just trying to help out the (1-post) OP.

It appears he isn't that interested in what we have to say.

1 and only post and never returned.

Build a fire, throw the match on and walk off. Watch it burn from afar.

 

[feye]

both vendors have pro's & con's - it's all a matter of what you want to focus on

Sorry, mate, Porsche actually makes cars, T on the other hand not, otherwise you would own and drive it.

 

[feye]

A full-specced Model S/X is also like €100,000 cheaper than a equivalent Taycan so I’d argue you get quite some bang for the buck if that’s a concern.

"Equivalent" in what way? It has 4 wheels? What on earth are you talking?

 

[Perry]

"Equivalent" in what way? It has 4 wheels? What on earth are you talking?

As in, a full-specced Model X with all the bells and whistles costs ~€150,000 which is almost €100,000 less than the list price for my Taycan. No, it’s not a Porsche for all what it stands for, but the actual feature set is relatively similar for both cars.

Yes, there are obviously cheaper trims available, but the point I’m trying to make is that you get a lot of car for your money with Tesla.

 

[Hanny]

As in, a full-specced Model X with all the bells and whistles costs ~€150,000 which is almost €100,000 less than the list price for my Taycan. No, it’s not a Porsche for all what it stands for, but the actual feature set is relatively similar for both cars.

Yes, there are obviously cheaper trims available, but the point I’m trying to make is that you get a lot of car for your money with Tesla.

Would advise as a model X user for nearly 3 years that there are better cars out there!

 

[Hanny]

It appears he isn't that interested in what we have to say.

1 and only post and never returned.

Build a fire, throw the match on and walk off. Watch it burn from afar.

Agree, perhaps this was the old ‘pull the grenade pin and run’ - OP not been seen since but he/she certainly got there pound of flesh!

 

[WasserGKuehlt]

As in, a full-specced Model X with all the bells and whistles costs ~€150,000 which is almost €100,000 less than the list price for my Taycan. No, it’s not a Porsche for all what it stands for, but the actual feature set is relatively similar for both cars.

Yes, there are obviously cheaper trims available, but the point I’m trying to make is that you get a lot of car for your money with Tesla.

To add my own tendentious data point, the fully loaded Model X in your example is a good 65k pounds (sterling, at today’s exchange rate) than my car, or almost 1.8x as expensive. The point I’m trying to make is that I got a lot of car for my money compared to a Tesla.

To your initial point - everyone’s expectations are their own, no point in trying to convince anyone else that something would be a good deal for them according to your standards. Fwiw I find the nav (planning and estimated consumption) to be perfectly accurate for my trips and driving style.

 

[snstevens]

P is plug; R is receptacle.
Helpful to keep that straight if you're looking to buy an adapter/dongle for various types of NEMA plugs that you might encounter in desperation. (Though remember to reduce the amps during such charging.)
The car charging adapter listings though are usually phrased as something like "CCS to Tesla" and the pictures are pretty obvious.
Meanwhile, for the reverse, this company:
https://a2zevshop.com/en-us/products/nacs-ccs1
... started developing its NACS-R<>CCS-P adapter back in September, completed the design in December, then went live with a placeholder product listing in July.
Goal must be to partner with a Chinese manufacturing facility to produce these as OEM-branded for the various NACS EV allies.
(I wonder if they test it with a Tesla EV at a V3 Supercharger by hooking up their NACS-R<>CCS-P prototype in sequence with their NACS-P<>CCS-R adapter!)

Great news about the a2z Typhoon adapter! From reading the webpage these folks seem to have done their homework.

 

[feye]

Yes, there are obviously cheaper trims available, but the point I’m trying to make is that you get a lot of car for your money with Tesla.

WOW!!!

Two months ago, I bought a Zeekr 001 with a 140 kWh battery and easy 700km of range for 52k Euro. With headup display, better software, much more space inside and in the trunk than my previous MS90D. Overall quality is Volvo level, and much better interior trims exceeding my brand new EQA 250+ by far.

So no, all you get is ripped off by T for a pile of junk only fanboys call a car. Wake up!

 

[Amelio]

Could someone elaborate as to why EA is so bad in Texas? Out of order chargers etc? How is the Supercharger network there?

We don’t seem to have a lot of Electrify Canada chargers here in Ontario and it’s a pretty large province. My wife wanted to take the Porsche to Peterborough to visit a friend in the hospital but didn’t feel comfortable without a fast charger up there. I’m sure there Was *something* but it was an emotional situation and she just didn’t want to think about it, so she took the Tesla. Truth be told she’d have been fine there and back with the Taycan but it was more for peace of mind.

The problem in Texas is not Electrify America. The problem in Texas is Texas.

It is not Electrify America's fault that the DC charging infrastructure in Texas is thwarted by the medieval, backwater mentality of is local government resulting in less state wide high speed charging options than LA county, or greater Denver.

Put the blame where it truly belongs.

And, no, I will never go back to a Tesla.

 

[DRR]

I’m not sure if it counts, but I’m considering getting a Model X as a complementary car for family trips. It doesn’t replace the Taycan as my everyday car, but with a second child, the Taycan is a bit crowded and the Model X is a great EV.

More on topic, as I see it, the Taycan is an amazing car, but Tesla is still far ahead when it comes to EV specific features, which I find especially important for longer trips. The charge planner is significantly better, the charging experience with Superchargers is unmatched, the app is probably best in the industry and few cars can match Tesla in overall range.

A full-specced Model S/X is also like €100,000 cheaper than a equivalent Taycan so I’d argue you get quite some bang for the buck if that’s a concern.

That’s what we do with our Tesla MYP. Unless you need the extra seating space or like the falcon wing doors, I’d recommend the Model Y Performance. In sport mode steering you get Taycan like performance and handling for the cost of the options on my Taycan.

 

[Perry]

That’s what we do with our Tesla MYP. Unless you need the extra seating space or like the falcon wing doors, I’d recommend the Model Y Performance. In sport mode steering you get Taycan like performance and handling for the cost of the options on my Taycan.

That's actually exactly the reason why I'm looking at a Model X . Two child seats take up a lot of room in the backseat, making it practically impossible for the second parent to sit next to them. Also, being able to essentially stand up in the car while mounting the child seat would be a lifesaver for my back.