Unfortunately, not all manufactures got the message!
It doesn't eliminate but narrows the Taycan target customer, cutting out people who would buy one to have the fastest car for the every day street driving, or drag racing. Taycan is a great car, good EV, but even when I wanted to buy one for myself, switching out of an old, non-Plaid Model S, I found the 4S underpowered during a test drive (the stall feeling when you hit the accelerator while rolling) - it was the main reason I stuck it out 20 months to get me a Taycan Turbo (Turbo S has no value to me since I don't use launch control). Anyone switching out of a Performance Tesla today, any model, will feel the same. Heck, while I love my Turbo CT, I felt a little disappointed it couldn't outrun a Mach-E at a red light which costs a third of the price (no launch mode, in Sport mode, perhaps Sport Plus and/or Launch mode would have yielded better results - I still don't get Porsche launch mode locking away extra power, the only reason I can think of is they don't want people to use it because it damages the car).
True, though I just bought a new Turbo CT and while trade-ins are hammered, you easily get >20% discounts on new models. Plaid s is today 116k Chf (plus you ll have to add ca 20k for the perf package, when available?)
Yes, Porsche's marketing is not based solely on acceleration at traffic lights.
So in one instance you can’t adjust ( the above statement) and yet in another instance you CAN adjust? ( Your reply below ). Hmmmm…… seems a bit contradictory. Maybe just to suit your preference of Tesla? ?I guess we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this.
Seems more intuitive and closer to what we've always done to continue using the left hand for all signaling than to remember to start sometimes using the right hand... ?
Actually whenever looking at porsche comparisons between the different trims, that is the primary difference Porsche marketing is emphasizing.
You are right, however you can get those on any trim, so not a trim marketing differentiator. I priced out a Taycan for me, same options (all the performance options you mention) on 4S/Turbo/Turbo S and the price difference was in tens of thousands of dollars between then (e.g. Turbo S was over $30K more expensive than Turbo).
On which marketing collateral? On website? No, It's not just acc from standstill. it's 3 different KPI for each trim (0-100 km/h, HP and top speed). Adverts? Nope. Media kit? It's not just 0-60 (more below).
The picture example you gave above is exactly my point. If you were to Model S Plaid into the above Porsche marketing table, it makes the Model S look like an upgrade from Turbo S but at less than half price.On which marketing collateral? On website? No, It's not just acc from standstill. it's 3 different KPI for each trim (0-100 km/h, HP and top speed). Adverts? Nope. Media kit? It's not just 0-60 (more below).
0-60 is one of the indicators for the whole industry, and it fuels pub bragging rights. it is easier to brag about acceleration than other aspects of performance.
Perhaps also because no driving skill is required at traffic lights. Just flooring the pedal. When you start looking at performance on mountain passes or challenging roads, pure tech specs will get you killed without good skills.
Show me a Porsche marketing comparison material justifying why it's worth buying a Taycan Turbo S CT over a Taycan 4 CT, why Turbo S price is almost a $100K more. You and I, and other people on this forum, might have painstakingly researched it, plowed through the configurator to find the options, then research what they mean (since the configurator descriptions are not that descriptive), asked others who have already bought it. Most other buyers however rely on Porsche marketing, which seems to produce things like the table you showed.
Actually that is essentially right. When a lot of new cars, even ones much less expensive than theirs, can do 0-60 sub 5 seconds, advertising a 0-60 in 5s is pointless at best, potentially counterproductive. I am not intimately super familiar with Bentley marketing, but went to their site to see how they differentiate the Continental GT lineup:By your logic, Bentley should stop touting the acceleration of the Continental GT Speed and the heritage of their v12 engine in its marketing because the 0-60 is equal to that of a KIA EV6 GT (3.5s). Totally. People here are rushing to cross shop from Bentley to KIA
I see your point on the trims and agree they trims are differentiated by HP and 0-100 times (looking at the German website). But it's just the trims comparison. If you look at the top level Taycan page there s plenty of other marketing stuff, same if you download their media kit.
It's literally right below what you posted (there s a photo in between). And yes it has 0-60 for the 2 engines they offer, right at the start of the paragraph, and the HP as well. I still consider that top level marketing
Yes, there is other stuff marketing stuff, but almost none of it talks about the difference between the trips (with the exception of GTS, I think I saw a GTS dedicated page somewhere). Then again, there probably can't be such differentiation since you can spec out a Taycan 4 with most if not all the performance options you get on a Turbo S, so really, the hp is pretty much the only difference other than what options are included.
English not my first (or even second) language either so I'm probably not the best person to ask. I call 4S, GTS, Turbo, a Taycan trim, but open to any other term or definition.
I only went 2 levels down (the two pictures I included). Yes, the hp and acceleration is listed but not as a differentiator between trims (like the Porsche table).
