Porsche Panamera vs Taycan - Test 3 Shoot-Out! | Fifth Gear

[RAHRCR]

 

[WuffvonTrips]

I assume that Panamera doesn't have PDCC ?
(I also simultaneously posted this video in the thread with parts 1 and 2)

 

[RingoDingo]

In spite of the result (which I won't ruin), they should have had the same person driving both laps. How can you purport to have a fair comparison otherwise?

 

[f1eng]

In spite of the result (which I won't ruin), they should have had the same person driving both laps. How can you purport to have a fair comparison otherwise?

I expect if Karun was driving both the difference may have been more.
I’ll ask him on Wednesday

 

[DerekS]

What a crap test:

- Panamera stationwagon version vs/ Taycan GTS non-wagon
- Different drivers
- Dig at EV charging at the end

Thumbs down

 

[007]

What a crap test:

- Panamera stationwagon version vs/ Taycan GTS non-wagon
- Different drivers
- Dig at EV charging at the end

Thumbs down

Both are Turbo S’s but yea, not the best test. F1ing will have a talk with Karun on Wednesday so I hope he brings this up.

 

[fullmetalbaal]

I don't get it. It's not that hard: try to make it as apples to apples as you can.
Same driver is a must.
IMHO, they should actually even put them on the same tires. Drives me nuts when you find out that one was performance summer tires and the other on M+S all-weathers. Complete waste of time to compare that...

 

[andb]

I assume that Panamera doesn't have PDCC

PDCC is standard on Panamera Turbo S, I guess that car's roll bars are faulty, no way it leans that much, mine doesn't even when pushed hard it just lose traction but stays pretty flat in corners.

Anyway the test doesn't make sense, one is a sports limo and other a sports sedan, of course the EV has better dynamics.

 

[WuffvonTrips]

I wouldn't get aerated about the diligence of their "tests"- many of their presenters are Porsche enthusiasts (e.g. Jason Plato has a 911 and a Panamera ST), but the target audience for this TV show probably isn't people who are fortunate enough to be able to be cross-shopping these 2 cars. Incidentally, they've also done head-to-head track comparisons of Taycans with 911 and with e-tron GT.

 

[RAHRCR]

I wouldn't get aerated about the diligence of their "tests"- many of their presenters are Porsche enthusiasts (e.g. Jason Plato has a 911 and a Panamera ST), but the target audience for this TV show probably isn't people who are fortunate enough to be able to be cross-shopping these 2 cars. Incidentally, they've also done head-to-head track comparisons of Taycans with 911 and with e-tron GT.

Agreed. My takeaways from that video were:

- The F1 guy drove the wheels off that Panamera….much respect.
- Even with that, the woman in the video drove the Taycan faster.

 

[kort]

it's apples and oranges, comparisons like this are a waste of time. until they drop an ICE engine into a taycan or put batteries into a panamera there is no point of similarity other than both being larger sedans

 

[Tighlines]

PDCC is standard on Panamera Turbo S, I guess that car's roll bars are faulty, no way it leans that much, mine doesn't even when pushed hard it just lose traction but stays pretty flat in corners.

Anyway the test doesn't make sense, one is a sports limo and other a sports sedan, of course the EV has better dynamics.

Having owned both cars (albeit Pan Turbo and Taycan 4S) I am constantly comparing the two and while I agree with their assessments, I dont agree with the way they went about finding them. The two cars are very similar as far as size, HP, weight/height and stance (when comparing ICE to ev).
The amount of body roll out of that Pan was absurd. It looked like a Cadillac Seville from the 80's. I pushed my Panamera very hard and never experienced that kind of roll. The rear end would slip when pushed too hard but it stayed fairly level.
I haven't had the chance to push the Taycan real hard yet but now that the roads are warming up I will. The biggest difference so far is how the EV maintains HP at high altitude. The Pan would noticeably drop off the higher into the mountains I would go.

 

[RAHRCR]

Having owned both cars (albeit Pan Turbo and Taycan 4S) I am constantly comparing the two and while I agree with their assessments, I dont agree with the way they went about finding them. The two cars are very similar as far as size, HP, weight/height and stance (when comparing ICE to ev).
The amount of body roll out of that Pan was absurd. It looked like a Cadillac Seville from the 80's. I pushed my Panamera very hard and never experienced that kind of roll. The rear end would slip when pushed too hard but it stayed fairly level.
I haven't had the chance to push the Taycan real hard yet but now that the roads are warming up I will. The biggest difference so far is how the EV maintains HP at high altitude. The Pan would noticeably drop off the higher into the mountains I would go.

Same for me…although I had the Pan ST 4S and now have a CT 4S. My Pan didn’t have PDCC but my Taycan does. I can’t say that I pushed my Pan to the level that the F1 driver did but it didn’t seem to roll that much in hard cornering.

Given that both cars are more touring than track focused, I am still impressed with both of them.

 

[Archimedes]

Sorry but Karun was pushing that Panamera harder than anyone on here ever has on the street, so saying that ‘my car never leaned like that’ is irrelevant. That car was being driven at the limit by a professional F1 driver.

Also that woman, Vicki, while not F1, is a very experienced race car driver. It’s not like they handed the Taycan to Vanna White.

 

[RAHRCR]

LOL..