But you're not getting 2.8 miles/kWh in reality. The OBC overestimates. 2.8 miles/kWh is more like 2.5 miles/kWh, which is a theoretical range of 270 miles. Also, if it's anything like the Macan, the remaining range doesn't drop in a linear manner. I would frequently get to around 15% battery remaining and the range would say "30 miles" (or less, even). That would mean a range at 100% of only 200 miles, yet at 100% it predicted 300 miles.
Is this opinion based on your Macan or factual about the Cayenne? I’m waiting for someone like Bjorn Nyland to review it and see what it will actually do in proper test conditions. So far we have seen the GLC is extremely accurate to its claimed range and the iX3 not so much, same for the XE60, maybe when he or similar does a comprehensive test we will see how close or far away it actually is.
Yep we had but never used it for long journeys so can’t say how good or bad it might have been. All I do know is the range was awful and way worse than what Porsche claimed, the best I yet seen in the height of summer was 2.4 and during the winter months it was 1.8-1.9miles/KW.
Wow, I have never seen anything that bad, mind you I'm on 20s and switched to Hankooks a few years ago for my Summers which generated a 10-15% uplift in range. I get 3.0-3.2mi/kwh in Summer on UK motorways and in France at speed in deep sub zero temps in December on Winters 2.0 once but usually 2.2-2.4 in 0-5c. My overall average for 38k miles is 3.4 though.
My opinion is based on my Macan AND watching videos of range tests people have done already where the Cayenne exhibits exactly the same behaviour as the Macan when it comes to the OBC accuracy, and the non-linear battery depletion.
I watch Bjorn, but he is far from scientific in the way he conducts his tests. Not to say he doesn't add value, but you just have to know his shortcomings.
But that's a different topic. How near a car gets to the WLTP range is not the issue here. We're talking about taking the consumption figure and extrapolating the range, which isn't an accurate way of doing it.
They're not miracle workers. The Cayenne is heavier and has a bigger frontal area than the Macan. A bigger battery will likely compensate a bit for the increased consumption over the Macan, but I don't expect significantly more range than the Macan.
What manufacturer's "claim" is just how a car performs in one particular test. Some cars suffer in the WLTP test for various reasons, and some excel, often due to the type of body, drag, and many other factors. The WLTP is just a loose way to compare between cars.
Thanks, it will probably be more interesting to see the Cayenne stats relative to your Taycans when you get it, that's the big question for me. My kids were fine in the back when we tested the CT in Summer 21 but now they're both 6 foot there have been rumblings about space. I would only switch if there was a really big step up in range , a friend has a Macan 4 and on the same long drive at Easter he didn't seem to be doing much better than I was for efficiency, charging or range which surprised me.
Because the WLTP test is carried out in a laboratory on a dynamometer without factors such as wind. A relatively aerodynamic car like the Taycan is going to suffer less in the real world than a car such as the Cayenne, which has a much larger frontal area.
I sincerely hope you're right.
Agreed but we don’t know what Porsche has changed between these two models, are the EV system identical. All things that will effect the outcome as much as the aerodynamics of the two cars.
So do I, though the Macan Turbo and Cayenne S has similar power outputs we don’t know how Porsche have configured each model. The Cayenne might be more setup for efficiency where as the Macan Turbo is setup for performance and more eager to deploy its power across both electric motors.
I don’t think you will see the Taycan getting replaced. I think Porsche has currently run its course with a saloon/estate model.
