Please help! Let’s imagine the new Macan EV comes out in 2 versions...

[feye]

Interesting! I would for the slow / long range model presumably it will have a real range of 750-800KM in the summer, and 600KM in the winter. But I'd probably observe how the Macan is going to shake up once delivered in 2025 despite the matured tech/ev platform, hopefully software too.

Yes, I want to buy the slower long range version. Want to experience it. Fast EVs I had for years, with frequent charging stops. Like last 2 weeks ago, when the hotel did have a charger, but not a "free" supercharger for my MS90D junk, so I went out in the night to find one - for added sightseeing. How is it, when you don't need to charge at all on such a trip and come back with 20% left in the battery?

I also found NIO ET7 quite interesting with 150kwh battery, and you can simply swap the battery at the station in less than 5 mins, I was invited for a test drive of the EL7 the SUV model and found it quite nice to drive and seat-in, tried the bat. swap station and was a very smooth process.

I looked at NIO over the years, recently sat in the new ET5.

• NIO has no options whatsoever. The car feels naked and a bit cheap.
• The seats cannot be adjusted much, just not comfortable enough.
• All the interior felt solid but on the cheaper side. It's like buying a VW or a Toyota. Not what I am looking for, and not for that money anyway.
• The battery is either buy - makes the car too expensive for the interior and options, or for rent, don't like it.
• NIO exterior has this ugly stuff for cameras and lidar(?) on top of the roof. That's a no for me!

On this car, however, the roof line is clean and all the self driving tech is inside and can be cleaned with the wind screen wipers. Makes total sense to me.

 

[Archimedes]

Fast one. 400 miles is plenty. But that option at the price point that you indicated is a pipe dream. Add $20k to that. At least.

 

[Mike in CA]

First, I think it's very unlikely that an electrified Macan will be anywhere close to $60K. That said I'd go for the quicker version. We have an Audi eTron (which, BTW, is a $75K vehicle just for the sake of comparison) that gets around 230 miles to a charge and have never had a real issue with range so a 400 mile Macan would be more than adequate. Aside from that, a Macan with a 140Kw battery would be HEAVY and handling would suffer for the sake of additional range that would be unnecessary; for us anyway.

 

[Hirschaj]

I want to buy the slower long range version. Want to experience it.

This sounds like torture to me but to each their own. If it’s a low power, long distance cruiser that suits your needs then go for it. If you do it I’d love to hear some reports back from you occasionally if you’d be so kind.

 

[feye]

First, I think it's very unlikely that an electrified Macan will be anywhere close to $60K. That said I'd go for the quicker version. We have an Audi eTron (which, BTW, is a $75K vehicle just for the sake of comparison) that gets around 230 miles to a charge and have never had a real issue with range so a 400 mile Macan would be more than adequate. Aside from that, a Macan with a 140Kw battery would be HEAVY and handling would suffer for the sake of additional range that would be unnecessary; for us anyway.

I put the price in, because power vs battery size is roughly the same on this car.

The difference in weight is about 100kg, because the new large battery has a better Wh/kg and only RWD instead of the more powerful AWD.

 

[feye]

This sounds like torture to me but to each their own. If it’s a low power, long distance cruiser that suits your needs then go for it. If you do it I’d love to hear some reports back from you occasionally if you’d be so kind.

Exactly. To my knowledge, it really is the world's first EV with such a large battery AND luxury interior.

Not decided yet. I'll keep reporting...

 

[B61]

That makes me even more curious, how a 7.3s EV drives. The 6.9s EQE (Made in China) I test drove recently, was not bad either. I did test drive the 3.8s and it's brute force, something I had for years and never really use, anyway.

I want to buy the big battery thing, because that really is a game changer. I want to experience it, so I know what I am talking about. Also, the company gives lifetime warranty on the battery, so unless the company goes bust...

The car is big, with lots of space for passengers and cargo. So a large battery makes it even more useful in the long run, easy to hand it off to the company later on for all kind of purposes.

7.3s might be problematic when overtaking….at least for those who are coming from 2-4sec.

 

[Raphie]

So why are we having Macan in the title while TS wants discuss some random chinese aliXpress car?

 

[whitex]

Can we get a 0-60 in 2 seconds, 240 mile range version instead? It would be much lighter, so more efficient, and handle the curves better too. 200 miles real world range is really all I see myself needing, both for every day driving and longer trips. I drove my Taycan 3,500 miles from the showroom to my house, no complaints about range .

 

[Bao1303]

Little off topic here but if the chinese members care to share some insight Im curious to know how the chinese home market rate the different domestic brands wrt. Quality. We have quite a few represented here, although not all models: BYD, NIO, XPENG, MG, HONGQI, POLESTAR, and probably ZEEKR soon.

 

[McgR]

Little off topic here but if the chinese members care to share some insight Im curious to know how the chinese home market rate the different domestic brands wrt. Quality. We have quite a few represented here, although not all models: BYD, NIO, XPENG, MG, HONGQI, POLESTAR, and probably ZEEKR soon.

Just did some reading. The ZEEKR is being prepared for the European markets. The name is rather unfortunate for the Dutch speaking market. Sound like Zeiker which is not something you want to associate your brand with. On paper it does look nice

 

[Crazymind]

The macan will have the 100kwh battery pack vs Taycan 94. I can’t see how it could possibly have better range considering height and weight. I would expect 20/30 miles more than the Taycan.

 

[DGW]

Yes, I want to buy the slower long range version. Want to experience it. Fast EVs I had for years, with frequent charging stops. Like last 2 weeks ago, when the hotel did have a charger, but not a "free" supercharger for my MS90D junk, so I went out in the night to find one - for added sightseeing. How is it, when you don't need to charge at all on such a trip and come back with 20% left in the battery?

Exactly, with the new Macan, I am mainly after the comfort and the actual range, I can't torture myself to queue up at charging stations during a road trip. On the performance side, I don't think it will be discounted to compensate for the large battery pack on the new Macan, it's a Porsche and it will be fast.


I looked at NIO over the years, recently sat in the new ET5.

• NIO has no options whatsoever. The car feels naked and a bit cheap.
• The seats cannot be adjusted much, just not comfortable enough.
• All the interior felt solid but on the cheaper side. It's like buying a VW or a Toyota. Not what I am looking for, and not for that money anyway.
• The battery is either buy - makes the car too expensive for the interior and options, or for rent, don't like it.
• NIO exterior has this ugly stuff for cameras and lidar(?) on top of the roof. That's a no for me!

On this car, however, the roof line is clean and all the self driving tech is inside and can be cleaned with the wind screen wipers. Makes total sense to me.

the EL7 is quite comfy with the electric tilted foot leg rest on the passenger side, but agree with most of your verdicts on NIO, and that makes me (IF i need to)only go for a subscription model, it's carefree and I can swap a fully charged battery in 5 mins, the best thing is I don't physically own the car which means I can get rid of it anytime I want.

 

[Archimedes]

I put the price in, because power vs battery size is roughly the same on this car.

The difference in weight is about 100kg, because the new large battery has a better Wh/kg and only RWD instead of the more powerful AWD.

You honestly think that Porsche would offer a 400 mile, 3.8 second Macan for $60k? Not a chance. That spec would likely be close to $100k. Base Macan EV will likely have 250 miles, do 0-60 in 5 seconds, and start at $70k.

 

[feye]

You honestly think that Porsche would offer a 400 mile, 3.8 second Macan for $60k? Not a chance. That spec would likely be close to $100k. Base Macan EV will likely have 250 miles, do 0-60 in 5 seconds, and start at $70k.

No, of course not. Porsche does not have a supplier nor does it has the in-house capability to produce these kind of batteries in quantities. Even if they were pulling it off, they would certainly never offer it for these prices.

I only put the price in, because I want to show how similar the price is between power (old trick) and range (new trick) and what I should choose.

If the German car manufacturers will not overcome their fear of canabilising their ICE stinkers, by making their EVs more powerful, they will loose out to the competition in the long run.