"Owning A Lucid Has Been Super Disappointing" (Engineering Explained)

[JayGT4]

For anyone considering a Lucid, this is a strong warning from Engineering Explained

 

[CAGCTG]

I almost bought one for the engineering, I.e. the fabulous range. I bought a Taycan (apple calls it a Tarzan) GTS instead and I love it, EXCEPT for the range. The Taycan does have a few minor glitches with respect to CarPlay and keyless entry, but it drives like a dream.
I feel for Lucid, it has so much promise, but testimonials like this are going to kill it. They should merge with Rivian, reputed to have wonderful software.

 

[ithinkmac]

Currently driving a Lucid Gravity Dream Edition. He's right, lots of software bugs. Drives well, but very much a bugs galore car at the moment. They're doing their best to fix with OTA updates. The hardware and engineering is top notch. They need to spend more time with the software team,t hat's for sure.

-iThinkMac-

 

[spmwilson]

I almost bought one for the engineering, I.e. the fabulous range. I bought a Taycan (apple calls it a Tarzan) GTS instead and I love it, EXCEPT for the range. The Taycan does have a few minor glitches with respect to CarPlay and keyless entry, but it drives like a dream.
I feel for Lucid, it has so much promise, but testimonials like this are going to kill it. They should merge with Rivian, reputed to have wonderful software.

Rivian has good software in general but my R1S still has plenty of bugs. My car was even bricked by an OTA before so there are real growing pains. They are also missing tons of features in comparison to Tesla (no surprise) and even legacy auto (texting). Since Rivian refuses to support CarPlay it's frustrating while they play catchup which will take years. Still generally a safer bet than legacy auto without OTA capability.

I know buying a Cayenne will be a downgrade in software but I'm willing to deal with that for a better-quality vehicle with CarPlay. The addition of digital key was something I was waiting for too.

Hopefully in 5-10 years I can buy a Cayenne with Rivian's software stack due to their partnership with VW.

 

[Moheisen(FirstEV)]

Rivian has good software in general but my R1S still has plenty of bugs. My car was even bricked by an OTA before so there are real growing pains. They are also missing tons of features in comparison to Tesla (no surprise) and even legacy auto (texting). Since Rivian refuses to support CarPlay it's frustrating while they play catchup which will take years. Still generally a safer bet than legacy auto without OTA capability.

I know buying a Cayenne will be a downgrade in software but I'm willing to deal with that for a better-quality vehicle with CarPlay. The addition of digital key was something I was waiting for too.

Hopefully in 5-10 years I can buy a Cayenne with Rivian's software stack due to their partnership with VW.

I always say this because I’ve seen plenty of EV buyers switching to Porsche who focus way too much on software. It’s important to understand that Porsche is, first and foremost, a sports car brand. Nobody buys a Porsche for the software — it’s a driver’s car that happens to run on a battery, and that has been the core engineering philosophy since the Taycan J1.

If you’re comparing Porsche’s software to essentially computer-on-wheels brands like Tesla or Rivian, you may want to reconsider whether a Porsche is the right choice for you, because you will end up disappointed. For a Porsche, CarPlay and stable basic functions are what matter — as long as the software doesn’t shut down, you’re good.

And just to be clear: this isn’t directed at you personally. I’m simply baffled by how many people compare completely different types of cars that aren’t even remotely comparable.

 

[spmwilson]

I always say this because I’ve seen plenty of EV buyers switching to Porsche who focus way too much on software. It’s important to understand that Porsche is, first and foremost, a sports car brand. Nobody buys a Porsche for the software — it’s a driver’s car that happens to run on a battery, and that has been the core engineering philosophy since the Taycan J1.

If you’re comparing Porsche’s software to essentially computer-on-wheels brands like Tesla or Rivian, you may want to reconsider whether a Porsche is the right choice for you, because you will end up disappointed. For a Porsche, CarPlay and stable basic functions are what matter — as long as the software doesn’t shut down, you’re good.

And just to be clear: this isn’t directed at you personally. I’m simply baffled by how many people compare completely different types of cars that aren’t even remotely comparable.

Totally understand and I'm going into this decision with that exact expectation. Honestly I'm more worried about the adjustment of no one-pedal driving vs the software but I don't think it's a dealbreaker. Every car has tradeoffs and I'll adjust. I have driven Rivian or Tesla since 2018 so it will be a new experience.

 

[Moheisen(FirstEV)]

Totally understand and I'm going into this decision with that exact expectation. Honestly I'm more worried about the adjustment of no one-pedal driving vs the software but I don't think it's a dealbreaker. Every car has tradeoffs and I'll adjust. I have driven Rivian or Tesla since 2018 so it will be a new experience.

After owning a Porsche it will be difficult to ever go back to anything else! So I am rooting for you