Cayenne EV quality vis a vis Macan EV quality?

[babylou66]

The Cayenne Electric we have all ordered is based upon the same platform as the Macan Electric but with many tweaks to motors, reversion to LG pouch battery cells like Taycan, and a big infotainment change. Motor changes are an amalgamation of Taycan and Macan systems. Electrical architecture is still individual module based like Taycan and Macan thus eliminating nearly all OTA opportunities.

Lately I've seen several of you are moving on from Macan EV "lemons" and maybe a few with the same for Taycan which probably is 2nd most unreliable EV ever behind Polestar 3.

I ask, for the folks moving on from Macan EV and Taycan, how confident are you the Cayenne Electric will be different?

 

[W1NGE]

The Cayenne Electric we have all ordered is based upon the same platform as the Macan Electric but with many tweaks to motors, reversion to LG pouch battery cells like Taycan, and a big infotainment change. Motor changes are an amalgamation of Taycan and Macan systems. Electrical architecture is still individual module based like Taycan and Macan thus eliminating nearly all OTA opportunities.

Lately I've seen several of you are moving on from Macan EV "lemons" and maybe a few with the same for Taycan which probably is 2nd most unreliable EV ever behind Polestar 3.

I ask, for the folks moving on from Macan EV and Taycan, how confident are you the Cayenne Electric will be different?

Isn't the Taycan built on the J1 Performance Platform unlike both the Macan EV and Cayenne EV which are built on Porsche Platform Electric (PPE)?

For the Cayenne EV, the battery production is split between LG Energy Solution (manufacture and supply NMCA LiIon pouch cells), Porsche (test & measurement, cooling) and Webasto (mounting of modules and power electronics into the Cayenne's structural battery frame).

Production sequence in this order is: LG --> Porsche --> Webasto --> Porsche Bratislava Cayenne assembly line.

Battery cells are different in Macan EV - prismatic cells sourced from CATL - Cayenne EV uses NMCA as mentioned earlier.

Cayenne EV motors are also different - upgraded from the Macan EV and have oil-cooled stators (S and Turbo) which don't exist for the Macan EV.

The PPE architecture is really the only common link from what I understand.

As and aside, my Taycans were 100% perfect over 4.5 years and 40K miles. Only work performed was for recalls. Almost zero reliability issues in my ownership - failed charging port was the single item on one of the cars.

OTA - personally, I'm glad that these are more restrained on Porsches as the prospect of bricking a car for major upgrade works is not one to relish. Until Porsche have their arms around the entire supply chain then I can't see OTA being a point of difference for their EVs.

I suspect there will be many similar gripes with the Cayenne EV as there has been (and continues to be) for both the Macan EV and Taycan. Hopefully I'm wrong.

 

[wemct]

Same here with regard to my Taycan (positive experience). I had the first 4S delivered in the US. There were a number of software updates during my 3 years with it. Overall, I was very happy with the Taycan, hence my confidence that my new Cayenne EV will be an awesome vehicle. My car after the Taycan was the all new Mercedes AMG SL55. It was a gorgeous new model with one of the best sounding V-8s I have owned. After 18 months, I filed a lemon law claim (it was in the shop for 61 days), and Mercedes bought it back. I replaced the AMG with a new Maserati GranTurismo Trofeo. It is a really gorgeous car. It is the 4th Maserati I have owned, and contrary to the brand‘s reputation, all have been problem free. I will be replacing the Maserati with a new Porsche 911 T this year. I want a stick shift before they disappear. All new cars these days are super complex. If either of my new cars (Cayenne or 911), present significant problems, I am confident that I can be made whole by pursuing a manufacturer’s buyback like I did with my Mercedes. My expectation is that Porsche will demonstrate its reliability by continuing the positive ownership experience that I have enjoyed with the other 10+ Porsches I have owned.

 

[wafergold]

I have the j1.2 taycan. Not issues at all . I expect cayenne will not have big issues has Porsche will have learned from the previous errors. OTA is a pity this is of not available. I had a Tesla S for 9 years and this car was almost has up to date with the new ones , which updates and new features every month .

 

[babylou66]

I have the j1.2 taycan. Not issues at all . I expect cayenne will not have big issues has Porsche will have learned from the previous errors. OTA is a pity this is of not available. I had a Tesla S for 9 years and this car was almost has up to date with the new ones , which updates and new features every month .

Have you had to take the J1.2 to the dealer for any software updates or recalls/campaigns?