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Recently there was a long range test drive of the Mercedes EQS with the large battery. The guy drove from Munich to Berlin. It was 638km (396mi) without recharging. He arrived with 48km (30mi) range left. Total 686km (426mi). Average speed 104 km/h (64.6 mph) consumption 15.8 kWh...

So far only shareholders took any risk, right? Let's face it, we live in a world of massive central bank money oversupply and a never ending string of "big stock scams". Will T end up on this list, who knows...

Maybe neither. This TED talk "The single biggest reason why start-ups succeed | Bill Gross" explains that timing seems to be by far the most important factor. Do we remember the Audi Duo 1990? Simply ZERO interest. Could not sell it at the time.

No, because it is not true! https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/vaporware-salesman-elon.5577/post-78627 https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/scared-to-ask-anyone-tempted-by-model-s-plaid.5423/post-75113

Sorry, I cannot read more than 2 pages, this is worse than my 6 year old MS90D.

Is this the latest fanboy spin after "cost-cutting with the Model 3 and Model Y continues"? :clap: "Minimalist" design is easy, making it "solid high-end" requires extreme quality. That's the reason why T is falling so short. The following principle applies to all but the most basic/simple...

Couldn't agree more. For me everything T, even the Y is already old, old models. Why look back? Who want's to buy old stuff?

There are well over 150 EV models on the market here and every single one of it has much, much better quality. So that's a hard no! I want to test drive new BMW, Toyota, EQA, EQS, new Nio with 150kWh battery and self driving Level 3, yeah even the new Mach E GT sounds good. The Polestar, VW ID...

Good, judge again, after you had your Taycan for a few months...

Interesting - like to listen to people with much more experience! I also really like this view. When my wife got the MS90D, I was still driving my luxury A7. Perfect car in every way, but the drive train. Over the years I often thought, this Audi all electric would be perfect! My Taycan is...

How does that make anything better? Do you have a link? I googled, 0 articles about waste in German car factories. This is the only one on waste I found: "Business Insider berichtet über einen „irrsinnigen“ Verschleiß von Rohmaterial und Geld bei der Produktion von Teslas neuem Elektroauto...

Maybe because of "unrepairable" cars coming out of the factory?

He didn't! My MS90D is j... All manufacturers selling EVs only because of regulatory pressure from the Chinese gov - and later the EU. That's why even Toyota has EV in China on the road! Dashcam quality is lacking...

They already said, they will first ship to Europe. They can sell these cars easy - but where they sell is driven by regulatory requirements.

But then the car you've ordered looks stunning! :angel:

Who? I suspect it does not make sense to produce a car, when they have missing parts? I ordered in Dec 2019, promised Feb 2020 production, delivery Apr 2020. Got the car mid Aug 2020 - 4 months delay...

Even the 450+ RWD could be quite enjoyable in regular traffic, since you still have instant torque. Looking forward to a test drive...

Not quite sure what you mean, but between recalls and supply problems delays...

Well even the Taycan can look odd on pictures, but in real it's different. I wait till I see one in the show room...

Best at software? Good at batteries? If the batteries are the same as in the previous model then the new one is worse with a even bigger motor. Does this new release serve any other purpose than winning pissing contest on SM?