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"I Went To China And Drove A Dozen Electric Cars. Western Automakers Are Cooked" - Article

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A trip to the Beijing Auto Show reveals just how advanced China's EVs are. So what are the so-called "foreign" automakers doing about it?

I’d later learn that the auto show had more than 100 new model debuts and concepts. That’s a far cry from the Detroit Auto Show last September, which only featured one fully new model. Two other models were refreshed versions of current cars already on sale. None were electric.

In China, the showroom floor was filled to the gills with new electrified models from every single domestic automaker. They all had something to prove, and by god, they were trying. There were hundreds of models on the floor from dozens of brands, most of them just as compelling as what I had seen the day before from Geely.

Most brands had doors that closed with a solid thunk, with soft-touch materials in the correct places, when appropriate to the vehicle’s price point. And no matter the price point, they all had responsive, integrated vehicle interfaces that were quick, pretty, and ubiquitous.

A basic infotainment system in any given moderately priced Chinese EV beats the brakes off some systems in cars that cost six figures.

There are reasons for that, but namely, Chinese EVs are so good now—as is much of its urban infrastructure—that concerns about range or charging just aren’t as pertinent to the average consumer as they once were.

Zeekr representatives said that now, the brand must figure out ways to attract consumers that don’t involve range or charging speed. Hell, the whole Chinese car industry has the same conundrum. Thus, all of its domestic brands (and some foreign ones) have ingratiated themselves with Chinese tech companies, and the two have moved in lockstep to figure out just what that means.
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The [Western] auto industry feels the same way. Instead of automakers attempting to understand and meet the needs of the Chinese market, they’d rather just sell the cars they wanted to make. By comparison, Chinese automakers seemed to have tried harder to understand the desires of Chinese people.

Chinese buyers wanted connected cars with big screens, and by god, the automakers figured out a way to get that in there, and how to do it well.
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Western automakers aren’t entangled deeply with tech companies in ways that would serve the end user, Chinese or otherwise. They didn’t get way ahead of the curve to establish a battery supply chain in the ways China did. And they don’t seem to want to cater to the Chinese market (or any market, rather) through continuous updates and agility with their product line.

Even Tesla in China can’t be bothered to update one of its most important products, the Model Y, in this hyper-competitive market. Instead, it relies on margin-hurting gimmicks to move units, like constant price cuts, subsidized trade-in incentives, and 0% financing to get customers to buy a car that is aged and now uncompetitive.

Tesla didn’t even have a presence at the Beijing Auto Show. Elon Musk came and went to Beijing during the show, only to make a case for his robotaxi pivot with government officials. It’s like he’s already given up on cars here.

Volkswagen placed its ID cars on the market, then acted surprised when journalists and buyers alike rightfully criticized its poor software interface.
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Chinese EV and PHEV models are more compelling than what European, other Asian, and American brands have come up with.

I’ve seen it with my own two eyes. We’re cooked.


https://insideevs.com/features/719015/china-is-ahead-of-west/
 

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yep. I live in the middle kingdom. I've gotten a fond liking of the Avatr, best designed chinese EV in my opinion.

My wife always laughs when I boast about mustering out 400 km range during road trips on a '21 small battery Taycan RWD. I always end by mentioning that at least it's still the prettiest EV on the road and that we specced it for max coolness vs. tech/efficiency. At least we are in agreement on that.
 

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haha, Asia was always supposed to threaten western OEMs, it began with Japan in the 80s and for me it sounds like "nuclear fusion power is coming soon"... :D
 

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haha, Asia was always supposed to threaten western OEMs, it began with Japan in the 80s and for me it sounds like "nuclear fusion power is coming soon"... :D
Honda, Toyota did steal a chunk of the American car market since the 80's. They forced the US automakers to change too. The current Chinese EV's are not "coming soon", they are here today. There is a reason why American Congress is doing everything they can to prevent Chinese EV's from hitting the US market.
 

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Solito negotium.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Americans will always make inferior cars.
We are good at making money, weapons and beautiful women and I'm OK with that.
 

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Solito negotium.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Americans will always make inferior cars.
We are good at making money, weapons and beautiful women and I'm OK with that.
And, of late, software and computer chip technology... which is why we've stayed ahead of the curve for so long, the defense contracting being the reason why we had such a head start. Cars are great, but it's the technology capturing and storing the energy for them that will matter.
 
 
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