one of the most powerful questions I learned later in my career (as a computer software engineer/manage/architect)
"What are you optmizing for?"
many times decisions are driven by unspoken optimization goals…forcing people to articulate what they optimizing for sometimes helps everyone realize...
this remains my point - it's close enough as to not matter - but it's gone well beyond not as good as Porsche…and for a 4000-6000 lbs street car that is doing daily driving duty…well I sort my potential cars into two categories:
crap
not-crap
most cars that most people buy are "crap" in...
as to if vendor "A" is +1 vs. Porsche or Porsche is +1 vs. any other vendor - that is a constantly moving target…and on any given day one car may or may not equal the other and by next year another advance will give one of the vendor's an advantage until the others catch up…
but realistically...
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a45504278/2024-lucid-air-sapphire-drive/
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/lucid/air-sapphire/first-drive
Here’s the exact quote you’re looking for from Top Gear:
That sums it up perfectly—Top Gear didn’t just rave—it awarded the Air Sapphire the title of...
I think the different with car is design and production is given to supply chain - where as with most electronics only production is "farmed" out - design/validation/conformance normally remains "in house"…
the difference is where are the details sweated?
with electronics the details are...
until Porsche came out with their EVSE I was unaware of any EVSE's that had problems, my experience was always they were a "solved" problem and not particularly challenging - they ere wall paper - not something you think about or notice…i
Porsche has managed to bring shame/regret/incompetence...
added to post #1 - thanks!
quite the history for a glorified on/off switch…
this thread the ongoing discoveries about the internal problems with the OBC and it's lack of power-robustness seem to indicate that Porsche farming out EE design decisions to supply chain partners has had some...
I'm not worried about when they started making cars - I'm worried about when they started making/understanding brakes :p
with the rise of ubiquitous information it's hard to have a technology "mote" - Porsche's secret sauce is less and less secret and the only thing separating products is time...
VW/Audi/Porsche remain in trouble - and yet there are signs of hope from other german's - this is what can happen if you focus on improving the future vs. reinventing the past (i.e. eFuels)
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/bmw/ix3-prototype/first-drive
looks promising…
I'm hoping to...
from a HP and performance perspective the Macan EV is better value than the ICE macan in my opinion - there are cheaper entry point ICE macan but i doubt anyone on the Taycan forum would say they are “good cars” - crappy engines, terrible throttle lag, expensive to maintain, mediocre gas milage...
Macan 4S EV - 0-60 in 3.9 seconds - $84,900 - before options
Macan GTS ICE - 0-60 in 4.3 seconds - fastest trim you can purchase today - $91,000 - before options
there are cheaper trims - but they are lesser cars - so you might as well compare Porsche to any other brand/car you choose - yes...
Porsche pursuing efuels is like Blockbuster video pursuing "faster rewind of the tapes" as a business plan to stave off streaming…
even if they are carbon neutral (a claim I don't fully believe) - they still burn like normal fuels which have all sorts of nasty pollution/non-greenhouse gas...
going to suggest this is off topic for the thread - but it'a great topic - my answer is linked below - let's continue sharing over in the new thread…
https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/hybrid-experience.27171/
we should continue sharing/chatting over in the new thread.
@Administrator...
J-1772 internals need re-working by consumer/customer for the Porsche EVSE not to suck - not a quality product.
the trend continues unabated that the porsche EVSE and related parts are simply awful products and have no business charging your EV - purchase an alternative quality EVSE and ignore...
for those that have "capacity" limitation problems with their existing home panels and don't want to endure the expense of a panel upgrade - consider the following…
https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/north-american-home-charging-for-the-power-limited-residential-user%E2%80%A6.26711/