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  1. daveo4EV

    Scared to ask... anyone tempted by Model S Plaid?

    weight savings - I’m not sure - given the Taycan weighs slightly more than my 2014 Model S P85D (which had better usable range than my Taycan) charging speeds is so far the only place I can factually state the Taycan is hands down better than any competitor (if you can get the EA charging...
  2. daveo4EV

    Scared to ask... anyone tempted by Model S Plaid?

    based on my experience this is simply not true - the Taycan can not run flat out for more than about 12-14 minutes - about the same amount of time I was able to get with my 2018 Model 3 - which is about 50% battery - my personal experience and the Taycan throttling power once the battery reached...
  3. daveo4EV

    [US] - Over the Top - the well equipped EV home garage…for those that wish to "over do it"…

    at these price points the ClipperCreek HCS 100 stuff is in the mix and should be seriously considered - neighbor ordered his was told 6 week back order, and it arrived 5 days later… not saying that will happen to you - but I think good companies under promise and overdeliver - and ClipperCreek...
  4. daveo4EV

    [US] - Over the Top - the well equipped EV home garage…for those that wish to "over do it"…

    only sadness IMHO is the 14.8 ft charging cable vs. industry standard 25 ft - for a $1600 charger I’d expect a 25 ft charging cable I wonder if the 25ft charging cable part for the PMC+/PMCC is compatible with this charger? 5 hour charging times are nice but only required when car is nearly...
  5. daveo4EV

    [US] - Over the Top - the well equipped EV home garage…for those that wish to "over do it"…

    here is the install manual for the Porsche North American 19.2 kW EVSE… breaker/output settings from 10 amp to 80 amp (charging capacity) dip switches for 240V, 120V, 208V only sadness is a 14.8 ft charging cable - a bit short for a $1600 charger
  6. daveo4EV

    [US] - Over the Top - the well equipped EV home garage…for those that wish to "over do it"…

    new charger from Porsche - $1600’ish - good feature set - adjustable install via dis-switches from 20-100 amp breaker setting probably a good choice for an adjustable 100 amp EVSE in North America… https://shop.porsche.com/us/en/porsche-wall-charger-connect/p/%24B-HCHH0LAA/ I’m looking...
  7. daveo4EV

    Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    Tesla achieved one thing also that was common prior to 2013 and delay’d good EV’s for who knows how long… ”there is no demand for EV’s” - that was common crutch from industry players both publicly and privately - even _IF_ internally someone had the foresight to pitch a plan to do an EV - the...
  8. daveo4EV

    Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    wikipedia Model S sales section
  9. daveo4EV

    Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    th they need to compete wiht the 3 and Y which is currently leading sales in most countries…
  10. daveo4EV

    Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    but markets are price segemnet based - and the Model S dominated it’s price segment that fact that you don’t think it’s worth the price is fine and you didn’t buy one (but @feye did but doesn’t like it) - the fact is Tesla sold products in that market segment and both grew the market and took...
  11. daveo4EV

    Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Model_S the sales section of the Model S wikipedia page documents the Model S dominating the small size but signficiant high end sedan market from 2014-2020 - yes North America isn’t the only reason for this - but the Model S is/was a world wide success and...
  12. daveo4EV

    Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    that’s the thing - it wasn’t just the US but the Model S was also doing the same thing in the other markets as well - the US market was consistent with also what was happening elsewhere - the Model S kicked eveyone’s ass world wide with very successful sales WORLD wide - the US data isn’t the...
  13. daveo4EV

    Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    you disagree? what part of the California economy being larger than the entire UK economy and by the way selling more vehicles do you find factually incorrect? it’s a UK news source reporting the data…
  14. daveo4EV

    Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    what other cars do you see photo graphed leaving the Porsche factory with Taycan mules? from other regions of the world. All I can find is Model S test vehicles being driven by Porsche factory drivers against the Taycan test mules… and I’m using North American sales data cause it’s my region...
  15. daveo4EV

    Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    the California Economy is like the 5th largest economy in the world if you measure it as separate country - it’s not a tiny microcosm - it’s in fact bigger than the entire UK economy - and therefore it’s sales volumes and revenues are conmensuratly also large and influential - the combination of...
  16. daveo4EV

    Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    where did I say the Model S was good and would continue to succeed once there was competition? I said it dominated sales until there were alternatives and the Alternatives were developed in response to it kicking ass in the sales department… people are saying Model S was not a factor in Taycan...
  17. daveo4EV

    Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    also for the California market (a significant portion of the entire US market) do NOT under-estimate the lure of an HOV car-pool lane sticker. 2014 Model S P85D = HOV carpool lane sticker - weekly savings 5-6 hours less time on the freeway 2014 Panamera/BMW 5 Series = NO HOV carpool sticker…5-6...
  18. daveo4EV

    Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    again I’m not arguing TEsla didn’t and doesn’t have problems - and I’m not arguing Tesla deserved it success - I’m simply pointing out the Model S captured 25-30% of the large Sedan market in North America and sales of the other guys products in that market segment dropped significantly for like...
  19. daveo4EV

    Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    you are correct for the entire vehicle market - but if you zoom in by market segment - which is how this stuff is measured - the Model S was 30% of it’s entire market segment (expensive large sedans) from 2013-2018/2019 - now that market overall is insignificant in the auto industry - but in...
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