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That is why Toyota has sold over 1.1m units last year. No many people are buying a 60k car to people who just want to the grocery store and back. LOL. You can't bear that thought? OMG.

Of course they are just another car manufacturer. People buy cars, they don't buy aspirations. They are selling cars to just like VW and Toyota are selling cars. Their stock is selling aspirations, like the 2020 levitating 0-60 in 1.9 second, 600 mile roadster with the laser windshields, or...

You do realize that this is the Taycan forum and many people here have bought one, ordered one or plan to order one, so I am not sure exactly what you think is passing people by. LOL.

Welcome! There is a really good group of people from the Bay Area - and we sometimes get together for a ride, so look forward to you joining us. Also, the Golden Gate Porsche club also has some group drives about every other month.

even though i am at 4.1 at 12k miles, i never cared about efficiency. if i did, i would buy a motorcycle.

the tesla roadster will get 600 mile range and will have rocket boosters so it looks like porsche is already behind.

Maybe the drama also involves the issue of getting a license from the FAA since he said the Roadster would levitate one meter off the ground using SpaceX tech. Neat trick in a car that has enough batteries for a 600 mile range and motors for a sub 1.99 0-60.

Nope. Without government mandates and penalties and without the efforts of Wan Gang, the taycan would have arrive later. But Porsche knew of the potential of EVs over 10 years ago when they started development of the 918

Owner experiences. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-s-plaid-lr-2021-refresh-issues-thread.232656/page-5 Yes, I know, someone got one that is perfect without issues, yada yada.

If you bored, you can also read about all the issues with the Plaid/refresh. I know that it isn't the same as the 3, but it shows that their software development is not nearly as good as thought. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-s-plaid-lr-2021-refresh-issues-thread.232656/

I did go to the gas station today and waited in line for gas...well, actually it was propane gas for my grill and there was only one person ahead of me, so it wasn't too bad. The good news is that I bought a slim jim - been a long time since I had one of those as an impulse buy.

You obviously are a climate change denier and in the pocket of big oil. (Or so I have been told when I asked similar questions. ;) )

For the "signature" edition or something like that, you needed to pay the full amount up front. $250k.

By the way, the upcoming 2020 Roadster will have rocket thrusters from Spacex that will also provide vertical lift. And it will have a 0-60 time even lower than the less than 1.99 that the plaid + will have. Oh, it also will have a 600 mile range.

On performance claims: Any CEO who says "we are the car's manufacturer and, of course, you shouldn't trust the car manufacturer. Never. " is 100% ok in my book!

Taxes and regulations. They keep adding those, so must be safe.

I love the interior with all the screens. It does look like something from a sci fi movie, and I like that. And I have always liked S class interiors. I am really hoping that the exterior car looks a lot better in person than in the pics since it just seems so bland and nothing special.

And I have 2 words in response to that: Fart App. It doesn't care about "competition" since it caters to it's crowd. Fart App with poor quality and poorer service. The question is how big, loyal and sustainable is that crowd?

Yeah, I am definitely guilty of over optimizing - but I am waiting for the electrician to fix my garage issues, so I have to do some extra engineering ;)

Does anyone know of a charger that would allow for a variable charging rate? I was thinking that for the health of the battery, if I am not in a rush, I would prefer to do daily charging at a much lower rate (3kw) overnight, and when I need to get a quicker charge, or need to charge a lot, to...