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On the GTS topic, if anyone is looking for one, there is a brand new one for sale on Rennlist right now for sticker.

Track duty? In Porsche parlance, the GTS is, and has always been, nothing much more than an option package/trim level for marketing purposes. It’s never been a track focused offering.

No it’s not just appearance. It’s about how it moves. The Taycan feels and looks like it’s directly connected to the drivers brain. It just moves immediately and linearly, with no drama. The 911, while blisteringly quick, does it with a ton of sound, fury, and drama.

You misunderstood my point. I wasn’t saying that it would have made economic sense. I meant that the actual design of the car is a two door design they stuck foor doors on, compromising space, ingress and egress. Given the design constraints, it would have been a better car to drive if it had...

Yes, but Ferraris and Lambos and Corvettes have always been big. Porsches weren’t. The 992 took it to new heights (widths) with its ugly fat ass. It’s a barge at this point. I commend Porsche for still making it perform though. What convinced me to go Taycan over 911 was that video of the...

But the 911 isn’t a lightweight sportscar anymore. It’s a big GT car. A very capable one, but still a GT car. And the rear seats, while better on the Taycan, are still compromised due to the small interior and roofline. I actually ruled out the Taycan initially when I was looking for a roomy...

I could never get past the looks of it. The shape is just clownish. It looks like an egg with wheels. And the interior was ridiculously garish and overdone.

Well the 911 has become such a fat pig with all that junk in the trunk that I expect they’ll have no trouble squeezing a hybrid powertrain in there that retains the basic ethos of the 911.

Saw my first EQS in the flesh today. Oh my. They should have called it the EOUS, as in HIDEOUS. I hope there is some kinda function following that form, because the form is simply awful.

I take it you haven’t seen the video of Chris Harris driving the Mission R… Porsche’s EV sports cars are going to be absolute beasts, and likely way more fun to drive than their ICE counterparts.

Then I wouldn’t own an EV, as that’s the most significant benefit IMO. I’ve owned two 911s, a Cayman, two Spyders, and a GT4. I don’t think I could ever go back to an ICE car at this point unless it was something really special either powerwise (3RS/4RS) or overall, like a Singer. But...

The GTS will be more expensive to run, but not by that much, excluding fuel of course. I wouldn’t make a decision based on cost. I’d just make sure that you drive one enough to know that you can live without the instant torque of an EV. When I drive ICE cars now, that’s the one thing that...

You lost me at that last part. You find it curious that the clientele at Walmart would tend toward the anti EV, climate denier crowd? Or did you mean to say obvious?

Why do you keep charging there if you don’t like the attention?

That’s lunacy. I bet every call reduces, rather than increases, the chance of saving the order.

But won’t it have to have a smaller battery than the Taycan? Also, we all know how protective Porsche is of the performance hierarchy of its model lines. Here’s hoping they are comfortable shifting all of that upward with the transition to electric.

If it has at least 500hp/400ft lbs of torque, my interest is piqued.

Waiting to see the price - performance figures before getting too excited myself. I’m interested as long as it materially gaps the current ICE Caymans. After owning the Taycan, the powertrain in my GT4 felt lacking.

Golf, hockey, basketball and skiing, but age is catching up. Rode motos for 40 years including 40-50 track days until a kid in a Rubicon ran a red light near my house and ended all that.

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