"Jaguar recalling I-Pace EVs - batteries can catch fire" - Updated Feb. 2025

[Tooney]

Jaguar is recalling more than 6,000 I-Pace electric SUVs in the U.S. due to the risk of the high-voltage battery catching fire, and it’s telling owners to park them outdoors.

Edit:
The documents say the vehicle batteries were made by LG Energy Solution, which is under investigation by the NHTSA after five automakers issued recalls due to possible defects that could cause fires or stalling.

The NHTSA opened the probe in April of 2022 covering more than 138,000 vehicles with the South Korean company’s lithium-ion batteries.
https://fortune.com/2023/06/01/jagu...es-catch-fireand-telling-owners-park-outside/

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2023/RCLRPT-23V369-7824.PDF

 

[ciaranob]

Profess ignorance as actually do not know if our Porsche batteries are LG sourced (realize they setup CellForce and also use Draxlmaier Gp. to manufacture but do they still source LG tech/materials)? Obviously with VW named there is a chance that they are? Fairly sure someone on the forum addressed the manufacturer before but can't recall - anyone?

EDIT
Porsche and CellForce ultimately want to create their own batt tech and cells but suspect 2020-2023 Taycans are still sourcing other manufacturers cells i.e. LG:

https://www.motorauthority.com/news...veloping-own-operating-system-for-2024-launch

- from this 2020 article it would seem they again plan to not use LG components but not clear if LG still a supplier:
https://www.dsf.my/2020/09/porsche-taycan-battery-is-from-the-draxlmaier-group/

And. from this (also) 2020 article they imply/state the Taycan does use LG Chem cells:

https://www.qnovo.com/blogs/132-why-does-the-porsche-taycan-use-800-v-battery-packs

And finally this is a great 2022 article (posted on the forum before) - very in-depth look at the Taycan engineering and battery and seems to confirm that LG pouch cels are indeed used in the Taycan's Battery Pack:

https://jalopnik.com/an-extremely-detailed-look-at-the-porsche-taycans-engin-1837802533

 

[Tooney]

Update on Feb. 14, 2025:
After 20% range reduction, I’m waiting for Jaguar to buy my car back

At the heart of the problem are the cells that make up the I-Pace's 90 kWh battery pack. Manufactured by an LG factory in Poland, some of the battery cells have "characteristics of a folded anode tab on the anode," as Jaguar described the issue in a recall notice. Folded anode tabs can lead to thermal overload, which in turn can cause fires. From launch to the end of 2024, Jaguar sold 10,183 I-Paces in total. Eight of the 2,500-plus I-Paces sold in the US in 2019 caught on fire by the end of 2023, according to JLR. While that may seem like a small figure, the correct number of EVs that should spontaneously combust is zero.

Jaguar is not the only carmaker suffering from LG's quality control problems—this is the same issue GM faced with the Chevy Bolt in 2021, which resulted in the carmaker recalling every last Bolt to replace the batteries at a cost of $1.8 billion. Volkswagen is also dealing with the fallout, recalling some Audi e-trons and capping their charge level at 80 percent. Some Hyundai Kona EVs and Chrysler Pacifica PHEVs were affected, too.

Jaguar's initial attempt at a fix came in May 2023. Recall H441 updated the software for the Battery Energy Control Module to better detect problems within the battery cells to hopefully prevent cases of combustion. Jaguar also said it would replace battery modules "as necessary." H441 covered all I-Paces manufactured to that point.

Just five months later, Jaguar issued recall H459. This one was for about 500 vehicles where recall H441 didn't take. With H459, Jaguar warned owners of the affected vehicles to both park and charge their cars away from structures for 30 days after the recall was completed.

"Don't park and charge in your garage" is a big ask for an EV owner. Imagine being told you can only gas up your car far outside the canopy covering the gas pumps. I have an Electrify America charger mounted to the wall, and the cable isn't long enough to charge a car outside the garage. I also live on a busy street with no outlets on the front of my house. Parking and charging away from structures made at-home charging challenging, to say the least.

The recalls kept coming, covering 100 I-Paces, then 258, and ultimately 2,760 MY2019 cars sold in the US. And each recall notice painted a more disturbing picture. In March 2024, owners targeted by the H484 recall were told they should only charge their car to 75 percent capacity in addition to parking away from structures. Those recall notices referred to a permanent solution without specifying what that might be—something that could be read as ominous or hopeful.

Subsequent notices sounded more concerning, with an "interim solution" of limiting charging and range to 80 percent. Recall H536 finally made it official: "As a final remedy, JLR will reacquire vehicles from affected customers. These vehicles will be held in the control of JLR until further notice."

 

[chun]

Update on Feb. 14, 2025:
After 20% range reduction, I’m waiting for Jaguar to buy my car back

At the heart of the problem are the cells that make up the I-Pace's 90 kWh battery pack. Manufactured by an LG factory in Poland, some of the battery cells have "characteristics of a folded anode tab on the anode," as Jaguar described the issue in a recall notice. Folded anode tabs can lead to thermal overload, which in turn can cause fires. From launch to the end of 2024, Jaguar sold 10,183 I-Paces in total. Eight of the 2,500-plus I-Paces sold in the US in 2019 caught on fire by the end of 2023, according to JLR. While that may seem like a small figure, the correct number of EVs that should spontaneously combust is zero.

Jaguar is not the only carmaker suffering from LG's quality control problems—this is the same issue GM faced with the Chevy Bolt in 2021, which resulted in the carmaker recalling every last Bolt to replace the batteries at a cost of $1.8 billion. Volkswagen is also dealing with the fallout, recalling some Audi e-trons and capping their charge level at 80 percent. Some Hyundai Kona EVs and Chrysler Pacifica PHEVs were affected, too.

Jaguar's initial attempt at a fix came in May 2023. Recall H441 updated the software for the Battery Energy Control Module to better detect problems within the battery cells to hopefully prevent cases of combustion. Jaguar also said it would replace battery modules "as necessary." H441 covered all I-Paces manufactured to that point.

Just five months later, Jaguar issued recall H459. This one was for about 500 vehicles where recall H441 didn't take. With H459, Jaguar warned owners of the affected vehicles to both park and charge their cars away from structures for 30 days after the recall was completed.

"Don't park and charge in your garage" is a big ask for an EV owner. Imagine being told you can only gas up your car far outside the canopy covering the gas pumps. I have an Electrify America charger mounted to the wall, and the cable isn't long enough to charge a car outside the garage. I also live on a busy street with no outlets on the front of my house. Parking and charging away from structures made at-home charging challenging, to say the least.

The recalls kept coming, covering 100 I-Paces, then 258, and ultimately 2,760 MY2019 cars sold in the US. And each recall notice painted a more disturbing picture. In March 2024, owners targeted by the H484 recall were told they should only charge their car to 75 percent capacity in addition to parking away from structures. Those recall notices referred to a permanent solution without specifying what that might be—something that could be read as ominous or hopeful.

Subsequent notices sounded more concerning, with an "interim solution" of limiting charging and range to 80 percent. Recall H536 finally made it official: "As a final remedy, JLR will reacquire vehicles from affected customers. These vehicles will be held in the control of JLR until further notice."

Same cells same exact " Folded anode tabs can lead to thermal overload, which in turn can cause fires." on Taycans, according to recall listing in europe.

One has to wonder if LG poland is covering the cost of all of these recalls, or the car brands.

Mildly concerning, as it is the same cells in taycans...

We seem to be at this step right now in taycan world, seemingly Jaguar has better software engineers than Porsche, they moved a tad bit faster - and by a tad, I mean 2 years faster:

Jaguar's initial attempt at a fix came in May 2023. Recall H441 updated the software for the Battery Energy Control Module to better detect problems within the battery cells to hopefully prevent cases of combustion. Jaguar also said it would replace battery modules "as necessary." H441 covered all I-Paces manufactured to that point.

 

[kort]

I've had an Ipace for 3 years, I didn't do the battery recall, It hasn't been a big worry for me. that said the lease is ending soon and I'll be saying bye bye to the ipace. it is both a great car and a very flawed one and now that Jaguar has terminated it, it is time to move on from Jag.

this is my wife's car and we are struggling to find a replacement. she wants a miata but likes the EVs, sadly there are no smaller sporty EV sedans out there. she drives 5k miles a year so an expensive car like a taycan is out. I am thinking a BMW i4 might be the car. any suggestions?

 

[chun]

I've had an Ipace for 3 years, I didn't do the battery recall, It hasn't been a big worry for me. that said the lease is ending soon and I'll be saying bye bye to the ipace. it is both a great car and a very flawed one and now that Jaguar has terminated it, it is time to move on from Jag.

this is my wife's car and we are struggling to find a replacement. she wants a miata but likes the EVs, sadly there are no smaller sporty EV sedans out there. she drives 5k miles a year so an expensive car like a taycan is out. I am thinking a BMW i4 might be the car. any suggestions?

The new MG EV; sadly you’d have to import it.

 

[kort]

The new MG EV; sadly you’d have to import it.

then it isn't an option for me, the fiat EV is available here in the US but it is an overpriced poorly made car. I think the Mini EV is available here as well but it is also like the fiat, poor quality and high priced