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Performance in the EV world is not difficult, the problem is the battery. Will be interesting what they will come up with.

It will because the oil cooling will not touch moving parts, so there is no contamination/loss and therefore no need for maintenance.

The new Cayman 718 EV? This could look much more like it: Source. Should have no gear box anymore and an oil cooled engine. Could be 2023/24 on the market.

Yeah you could do that. But then they already have to deal with a shitty car. :lipssealed: The real issue are the fanboy lies. It's like me posting in a T forum: Without the Porsche Taycan, the Plaid would not exist. Porsche saved T from bankruptcy. Porsche InnoDrive was the reason FSD exists...

So you are saying, that when I drive now, I not only get Chinese social score but also EM safety score? Will sell like hot cake over here! :giggle:

You are making this sh*t up, aren't you? :giggle:

You guys are so mean to "French cars" and "Datsun". :giggle: I only once saw a Polestar 2 last year, and for me it is a "head-turner". ;)

I agree. I record my experience, because it could be interesting to understand future decisions on when and what models get electrified: 2023 EV Macan (hot selling in China), then 2024 718 Boxter and 718 Cayman as EV. Well-informed sources have now told Car and Driver that the interior of...

Much more interesting would be to know in what markets T was selling up to the time when Porsche triggered the investment for the Taycan? Wasn't it mainly in California (treehuggers :involve: replacing aging Prius and young tech guys)? Norway - early brutal government regulation? Best selling...

Do you know how big the battery will be, roughly?

Exactly! Also not available in my market. But even worse: 13 months waiting time for orders placed today in Germany!

This is exactly what I try to say. The US market for the German car industry is relevant but not a single brand with a substandard money losing product! Interesting fact: Years ago, when the US-China "trade war" started, the 5th largest product export category from US to China were cars, but...

The problem on this argument is, that you start off with another fanboy fantasy! Just because the price of product is comparable, does not mean the whole product is comparable. Even in this form there are many people who would have liked to buy an EV, but could not stomach the cheap interior and...

I am not a car guy at all, but totally in line with your priorities! :) I start to warm up to EQE more than EQS. But I want to see it in person and test drive it, before I rush to any judgement. ;)

I like your numbers, but it still doesn't proof anything. If the car is that good, why are sales numbers in Norway next to 0, after alternatives came to the market? So I would need to trust your judgment?

It did happen! But only for a couple of years in Norway, where a Model S was half price of a Mercedes E-Class due to government regulation. :giggle:

Well, if it is nonsense, it is just that, nonsense! When Porsche decided to make the Taycan even up to when they started to produce it, T made no money with cars. Why would a company invest so much in a money losing product? Why would they suddenly follow BMW where it was clear in 2015 they...

Well they have to. China is an important market to Toyota. H2 is a disaster for becoming a CO2 neutral economy.

Sorry, no way I'd ever buy a glass car. Instrument cluster a copy? :giggle:

Sold out, right? Did you get one?