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  1. Would you consider a Hydrogen Fuel cell car?

    it’s a little difficult to compare, but back of the napkin looks about 5x more expensive than hydrogen. Maybe it does get a lot cheaper, that‘s a dream, but still all bleeding edge science stuff for now. we have decades of experience with H2 in flight. We call them rockets. Only SpaceX uses...
  2. Would you consider a Hydrogen Fuel cell car?

    you mean like this ? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-hydrogen-southkorea-insight-idUSKBN1W936A nuked a soccer field sized chunk, killed 2, one was blasted away. Yeah, I want one of these in my neighborhood.
  3. Would you consider a Hydrogen Fuel cell car?

    synthetic fuels are far far more expensive than hydrogen. We haven’t seen much progress towards electrifying large shipping vessels. Not saying it has to be hydrogen but there might be a useful niche here and in heavy industry airplanes are challenging for battery volume and weight. and...
  4. Would you consider a Hydrogen Fuel cell car?

    https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a36003212/hydrogen-mirai-california-shortage/ ... I'm all for cool tech, but Hydrogen had its chance and the auto makers basically fucked around until they were overtaken by lithium ion batteries.
  5. Would you consider a Hydrogen Fuel cell car?

    Hydrogen will never work for consumer transportation. We might see a different story for large shipping or airplanes, but it's fundamentally retarded for automobiles. Hydrogen was something to do if EVs couldn't work out. EVs have, and that's that. Hydrogen is expensive, volatile, and very...
  6. Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    wtf ? I think you need a new lambo dealer. Sounds bullshit. If that’s true about the warranty, then I just freed up a slot on the bucket list. have you considered … any other supercar manufacturer ?
  7. Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    this. I think we see 4 motor power trains come down to super car price levels in less than 10 years. I’m really interested in the handling and dynamics changes that are possible with 4 in wheel independent motors like the Drako...
  8. Scared to ask... anyone tempted by Model S Plaid?

    We need some folks here to actually drive them and post.
  9. Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    Eh. I’ve been doing that for … long time. Nothing goes on the dash. Ever. One of my college buddies insisted it was a stupid rule. Well, until I intentionally sent the pennies he left there into his face. Lesson learned. it’s been at least 20 years since sports cars had more power than...
  10. Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    Modern automotive platforms are massive multi-year undertakings requiring huge amounts of capital. I don’t think there’s anything particularly wrong with the taycan. It was state of the art in 2019. The model 3 was in 2017. The model S in 2012. The plaid is in 2021. It took Tesla 2 years...
  11. Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    The taycan J1 architecture was designed to compete with the model S of 2015. The plaid has 50% more motors. Tesla has its issues, but they do know how to build a damn fine EV powertrain
  12. They either misspent most of it or they have been had... but the investment Porsche makes on electronics does not correspond with the results !

    good software is a LOT harder than it appears. anybody can pour paint onto canvas. Doesn’t make them a renowned artist. Really, same is true for pretty much every world class expertise. anybody can drive. Not gonna make a career in racing.
  13. They either misspent most of it or they have been had... but the investment Porsche makes on electronics does not correspond with the results !

    It’s not just how much you spend. It’s how your prioritize the function internally. Politically, financially, knowledge chassis development includes the Porsche GT racing division with a decades long history of world class competition. Software includes … contracting to rando auto suppliers...
  14. Scared to ask... anyone tempted by Model S Plaid?

    my next car is probably a McLaren instead of a Porsche because the dealers suck that much to interact with. I’ve offered ADM and only half of them even bothered to fucking call me back. Fuck me ? No, fuck you. Can‘t go out of business soon enough
  15. If you’re bored sometime - go test drive a Model 3

    I will say as uninterested I am in owning one, the model 3 and its performance / $ is what persuaded me ICE is completely doomed, environment or not, on a strictly economical scale. Look what just happened to Bugatti. That's foreshadowing boys. Porsche, McLaren, Ferrari are all pushing out...
  16. If you’re bored sometime - go test drive a Model 3

    thinking about mixing it up and getting back into a Tesla Dave ? Not cross shopping a model S with your taycan ? I haven't had a chance to get into a Plaid, but the older S's, and the model 3 (my wife has one and I drive it from time to time) make me unhappy as a driving experience. The...
  17. Tesla Model S Plaid catches fire

    at least it's not hydrogen ? TL;DR "destroyed a complex half the size of a soccer field" https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-hydrogen-southkorea-insight/hydrogen-hurdles-a-deadly-blast-hampers-south-koreas-big-fuel-cell-car-bet-idUSKBN1W936A
  18. Tesla admits FSD is a pipe dream

    even if it were to be possible, it'll be significantly harder and handicapped vs. a multi sensor system.
  19. Tesla Model S Plaid+ on the website for configuration

    I suspect it’s an excellent daily driver and commute vehicle. Extremely skeptic the driving dynamics are fun by Porsche standards. One of my big fears for the roadster is that it’s designed by people who in their hearts would rather humans didn’t drive. guess I kinda think about it like M5...
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