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I have an early Grand Touring reservation. I'm not sure if I'll be going through with delivery, but the room in the back seat (3 kids), extra storage, and almost double the range has me really interested. Agreed that the Taycan is the better looking car, but the Lucid is attractive. More...

Looks like a Taycan Speedtail.

Yeah you're right. I should completely trust Tesla. They have the utmost integrity and have always been transparent with the public. They have never made misleading claims or tried to game a system like the EPA ratings. I'm also confident that the Nurburgring organization (I'm not sure what to...

I'm very skeptical of their Nurburgring time. I know it was supposedly certified by that third party, but I don't see how the factory brakes survive a lap.

FSD (Full self driving) is arguably Tesla's biggest claim for why their valuation is so high. They insist that Robo-taxis and self driving cars will bring in huge amounts of future revenue. Their car sales alone will never justify the $700B+ market cap. I'm sure Porsche and other automakers are...

This entire thread is about the Taycan vs. Tesla Model S Plaid. If you aren't interested in reading about what is going on with Tesla, the you are free to ignore this thread.

https://electrek.co/2021/09/26/slow-teslas-everywhere-24-hours-into-the-fsd-button-what-is-your-safety-score-beta/ Slow Teslas everywhere: 24 hours into ‘the FSD button’, what is your Safety Score (Beta)? "I spent the evening driving 55mph on the highway to try to get my score up which of...

As part of the wider rollout of FSD (Full self driving) to a larger set of Tesla owners, Tesla requires monitoring their driving to determine a "Safety Score". If their score is below some threshold set by Tesla, then no FSD for you. The "Safety Score" is based on the following metrics...

Back to more important discussions. Tesla just released FSD beta to a lot more customers last night. Anyone want to place bets on the first accident? I give it three days before an accident. 2 weeks before it gets shut down.

The price is a bit steep, but take a look at the lease rates. They are very competitive against other EV's in it's class (Mach-E, Model Y, E-tron). My dad pays around $600 a month with zero down. It was several hundred a month less than his outgoing E-class lease. A base Model Y is about $700 a...

My dad (81 years old and buying his first EV) took delivery of his Polestar 2 a few weeks ago. He came from an E-Class diesel. He absolutely loves it. It's great looking in person, he said equally as luxurious as his E-class (he has the loaded Polestar interior), and a much better infotainment...

Oh, the Tesla and the Model S has absolutely shaken up the auto industry. It has redefined what is possible both for an EV and from a software perspective. Tesla deserves credit for this. I was simply pointing out that buyers weren't leaving Mercedes, Audi, BMW, and Porsche to go by a Model S in...

Dave, I think this is a story that has been repeatedly told, but isn't backed up by actually sales history. The high end luxury car market wasn't dramatically impacted. Take a look at the sales data below for the US market. All of the major luxury sedan models tend to fluctuate a lot between...

The EPA ratings are a joke, but I have no doubt that Lucid will go much further on a charge than any other production EV today. Motor Trends drive through California was just a preview. Now we can debate if the 400-500 miles of real world range is actually needed. For me the range the Taycan...

If Lucid’s powertrain is the real deal, I kind of wish Porsche/Audi would have partnered with them over Rimac. The Lucid powertrain combined with Porsche chassis, suspension, and braking would be top notch. Their motors are significantly smaller than the Taycan, yet develop a lot more...

I’m planning on replacing our Audi E-tron SUV with a Rivian R1S. I also have a reservation for a Lucid Air Grand Touring, but I give it about a 20% chance I’ll actually go through with it. Next Gen Taycan and the Mission R are my most likely replacement for my current Taycan.

Rivian started production. Deliveries of the first 100 trucks happening in the next two weeks. They have still said my R1S (the SUV) should be delivered before the end of the year. Hoping to have it ready for ski season. As soon as I take delivery I'll post a review on the forum. I figure a lot...

I was just thinking, the only other upcoming (next 12-18 months) EV that could give the Taycan or Model S a run for their money on the Nurburgring is the Lucid Air Dream Edition. Lucid was running early prototypes around Laguna Seca, so obviously track performance was at least evaluated. It has...

The Turbo S in range mode is really efficient. I don't think performance powertrains will necessarily impact the range too much. Aero and tires will be the biggest factor. They are going to need active aerodynamics to increase downforce on a track, yet make the car slippery when driving for...

The Taycan that ran the ring record had a roll cage and racing seat.