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Amen. Within the EV space, one fascinating thing is how much lighter a model 3 is compared to a Taycan (about 1,000lbs lighter for performance model). Yes, the battery is 10kwh smaller and there is less insulation and interior finish outs, but the weight difference and related efficiency blows...

My ‘18 4S ST (not hybrid) is over 400kg lighter than our ‘21 CT4. I specifically chose the non-ehybrid due to weight and less complexity with the hybrid system. The Taycan “feels” like it handles better due to the lower CoG, until you get to braking. The lighter Panamera induces much more...

This seems more like a comparison of power to weight ratio. I think the real test for handling is body roll and traction when shifting weight laterally. @cometguy clarified the position of the battery is now under seats which makes a ton more sense for CoG. The previous generation threw a flat...

Curious how an ehybrid Panamera would perform better than non-hybrid? Don’t they throw a 500lb battery in the trunk plus a few other bits in the drivetrain that result in a much heavier vehicle on the same chassis? Haven’t driven one, but on paper I never saw the benefits outweighing the extra...

Good question, that I’m also curious about. I’ve seen references that a particular vehicle has improved its Cd - ie the new Cadillac Escalade has improved its Cd by 25% to 0.36. This clearly indicates improvement of the aerodynamic efficiency of the Escalade in the context of itself but it...

Too funny. Living in Texas, I try to refrain from commenting on the topic of truck and SUV popularity. We are a two wagon household, partially for the reasons you state, and are often met with confusion and prejudgement about the practicality, specifically the cargo space sacrifice we’re making...

Very interesting. How do the massive wheels, suspension and brakes, which are exposed with higher ground clearance, play into the turbulence under the vehicle? I’ve noticed the full size American trucks and SUVs are on the trajectory of larger front fascia with lower and lower front...

I agree the recent offerings from both brands are phenomenal and when the price is factored in, serious competitors to other import brands. My BiL just switched his Toyota loyalty to pick up an Ioniq 5 a few weeks back (I test drove all the EV competition in that class with him) and I’m...

@Jhenson29 ’d like to see your Silverado vs the new Hummer EV. Bet the hummer is taller with a similar length. From what I’m reading, the yet-to-be-released Hummer EV SUV will be shorter than the truck, identical in length to the Taycan, but similar height to the truck and more interior cargo...

Lol. The frunk of the hummer is about 2/3 the size of my wagon cargo space, but that’s also the only insulated cargo area on the Truck version. It also barely fits in the parking space. Apples and oranges no question.

In lifted mode, the top of the Taycan didn’t reach the bottom of the Hummer’s windows. And I was staring up into the wheel well from the driver’s seat. What a mammoth vehicle.

Wife and I split a ‘18 Panny 4S ST and a ‘21 Taycan CT4 and this assessment is spot on. Taycan handles light years better due to low COG and feels smaller and more tidy (even though it is almost the same size). The steering wheel, mirrors and some other parts come from a 911 and it seems to be...

I believe the conclusion. 171 bpm heartbeat while driving a Kia EV for the “up-tempo” music sounds ridiculous though - that’s a vigorous cardio workout for me. Were the drivers sweating buckets after 18 minutes of that? I wonder if that’s a typo and actually represents the music bpm, not heart...

I haven’t seen anyone proactively try to race but I also try not to look at anyone else while driving or waiting at stoplights. I’ve found that if you accelerate rapidly in a car that people notice, they perceive it as a race and will act accordingly. I argue the fastest car on the road is a...

I speculated on a related launch control thread that the 0-30 is slower than the 30-60. Someone with proper instrumentation should test this theory!! My experimentation with LC has yielded widely varying results but the one thing that provides consistently quick launches is a warmer battery...

Not to jinx myself but don’t be overly concerned. I’m about a month in on a CT4, will hit 1k miles tomorrow and it’s been impressive. Some small quirks here and there but nothing glaring so far, and the car overall is an incredible DD. I also was becoming concerned pre-delivery based on what I...

What’s the range with a roof box?

I was thinking exactly the same, though the elegance of the mclaren is not in the merc stable.

If a Panamera can’t start it also can’t be put into neutral. I’m guessing other Porsches with PDKs are similar.

My wife delegates the forum research to me. She’ll be daily driving the CT4 when it arrives in a couple months.